Limit 1/2 innings to a max # of runs

[FTMSupport]

In our next release, you will actually be able to edit a situation like that after the game and mark the runners as "Run Not Scored" after the fact.

Part of the problem with putting the "max runs" in is the many different rule possibilities. Some have X runs for first Y innings. Others have max runs throughout the game. Some will allow you to give a home run in a situation like yours, and others will say that no, it is a single no matter what. The possibilties are endless which makes actually putting a "rule" in very difficult. We will continue adding more flexibility in how you can enter the situation (like "runs not scored"), but even then, the stats get tricky. Who actually gets credited with a "run" in your scenario? Should the runner on third get the "run" stat? Or should the batter get the "run" stat? Of course, it would be nice to credit the batter with a grand slam and 4 RBIs, but if the runs are not be counted, you can't really do that either.

Anyway, these things have been discussed in other parts of the forum as well, but as noted, we will continue working on enhancements.

[bmclaurin]

For the runs on a home run that you do not want to count, PRIOR to doing the In-Play, Home Run entry, touch the lead runners that should not count as scored runs, touch Safe, Home, Run Not Scored for each. Then enter your home run (which allows the remaining runners to score and count as a run).

Thanks for this tip, but doesn't that end up crediting the wrong players with the runs scored? Shouldn't the leading runners be the ones that actually score, not the trailing runners and/or batter-runner? If I understand your work-around correctly, if, for example, you have a 5-run per inning limit and 3 runs have already scored, and now you have bases loaded and BR hits a homerun. If I understand what you're suggesting, I would touch R3 -> Safe -> Home -> Run Not Scored. Then, when prompted for R2, I would do the same thing, and when prompted for R1, I would touch Safe -> Held Up. Then I would score the Home Run for BR, which would automatically score R1 and BR, and then touch Misc -> End Inning.

I agree that this procedure gets the total runs correct, and it correctly credits the BR with a home run. But shouldn't it have been R3 and R2 that get the run scored, not R1 and BR?

I suppose you can chalk this up to the problems associated with leagues that require run rules rather than iScore. But this is how I have typically handled this situation on a paper scorebook.

[FTMSupport]

You got the suggestion right.

If you can show us any official rules that say that is how it should be scored (R3 gets a Run Scored, R2 gets a Run Scored, R1 gets nothing, B gets HR [but NO run scored]), we would like to see it. Every time we have seen official rules, they say the batter only gets credit for as many bases as are required to score the runs. The only exception is a walk off home run over the fence in which case all runs actually count.

If you have something that shows otherwise, we would like to see it though.

Thank you.

[bmclaurin]

No, I'm not aware of any official rules that would ever address this situation, except for the walk-off HR you mentioned. In OBR, you would never have this situation as they obviously don't have a run limit. I was just using intuition. To me, intuitively speaking, it seems that the leading runners would be the natural run scorers in that situation.

[FTMSupport]

That would leave the Batter with a Home run, but no Run Scored though (which would be very awkward when trying to tally stats, and would lead to incorrect stats for things like RPA).

We feel the situation is a very awkward one since there is no "official" way of scoring it, and since there is really no "right" answer (at least none that we have found), we do not want to spend a lot of time doing something programmatically to handle it. We would rather allow for people to interpret the rules the way they would like. We are adding the ability to change any run crossing the plate to "run not scored" even from Pitch by Pitch editing in the next release, so you would be able to choose which runs you want to count when that release is available.

Even now, you can decide which runners you want to score. Just have them score or mark them as reaching home with "run not scored" prior to the home run. The only person that iScore currently requires the run to count is the person that hit the home run (for the reason mentioned at the beginning of this reponse).