Pitches per inning?

[MHEMD]

danmcc, they don't have a problem with it. It is actually more accurate than paper and a pitch counter in most cases. I am always amazed how thre people can be counting and come up with different numbers!

[danmcc]

LOL, your right on the different pitch count numbers. Many counters forget to count the pitch that was a hit or don't count foul balls past 2 strikes because it doesn't fit in the 5 boxes.

I am glad that your umpires are allowing the tool, I agree it is more accurate, there was a thread on here last week that the itouch was not allowed in the dugout by rule no electronics.

[Bryan D Shepherd]

Dan, the umpire does not keep track of the pitch count themselves (at least no umpires that I know of do). However, a lot of umpires do like to make sure in between innings that the pitch count is accurate with both teams so when the times comes to pull a pitcher due to pitch count, there are no surprises on where he/she is on pitch count. I give a lot of rule references but I'm not sure of this one, pitchers are allowed to complete an at bat should they go over the pitch limit during an at bat, but must be pulled immediately after the at bat is over.

[Bryan D Shepherd]

danmcc, they don't have a problem with it. It is actually more accurate than paper and a pitch counter in most cases. I am always amazed how thre people can be counting and come up with different numbers!

One thing that I have noticed, MHEMD, is that some people inadvertently forget pitches when a passed ball or wild pitch occurs and one of the base runners is moving. Some coaches also forget to add a pitch when a batter hits a home run, or a deep triple or something to that effect. A lot of scorebook keepers in the league that I umpire in are coaches themselves and not parent volunteers. More often then not, I see a scorebook in the 3rd Base Coach's Box.

Oh, and welcome to the board

[OhioTex]

We will likely be adding a 1/2 inning recap soon. This has been requested in the past and has been moving up the priority list. Thank you.

Please... Next version???

[plivengood]

...I give a lot of rule references but I'm not sure of this one, pitchers are allowed to complete an at bat should they go over the pitch limit during an at bat, but must be pulled immediately after the at bat is over.

I am a former LL President, Majors/All Star manager, and noobie umpire. The rule is not actually a "rule" but a pitching regulation, Regulation VI. Depending on age levels, pitchers have different maximum pitch counts they can reach before they must be removed (7-8 - 50 pitches; 9-10 - 75 pitches; 11-12 - 85 pitches; 13-16 - 95 pitches; and 17-18 - 105 pitches), and Bryan is correct that a pitcher who meets these maximum thresholds can exceed them to finish a batter.

However, there are lesser thresholds that apply as well, to determine how many days' rest a pitcher must get before he can pitch again, and those numbers are "hard" thresholds (after which all but the youngest kids must observe four calendar days of rest before pitching again). Generally, for kids younger than 15, those thresholds are 20 pitches or less (can pitch again the next day without rest), 21-35 (can pitch again after observing one calendar day's rest), and 36-50 (can pitch again after three calendar days' rest). Unlike the maximum pitch count, you cannot let the pitcher finish a batter and exceed the relevant threshold without the consequence of an extra day's rest. This is why it is so important in Little League that pitch counts be exactly correct. There is no requirement that both books' pitch counts match (home book is official book), but obviously if they do not, it can be a major bone of contention, which is why so many managers, scorers, and even umpires insist on both scorers reconciling the count every half inning so there are no surprises.

The half inning recap (which should include the half-inning's pitch count and preferably a pitch-by-pitch for just that half inning) will be invaluable to resolving the times when the counts do not reconcile. I think the pitch-by-pitch is especially important for this. While this is probably less important to non-LL users (and I like the idea of this being an option that can be toggled on or off), I think I would find it useful information to be able to relay to a coach even in non-LL settings, especially with other information included (ball-strike count, 1st pitch strikes, etc.).

[dfdresher]

I agree - the pitch per inning would help. I know that I can go to the scorecard, but that takes a moment sor two, and the umps and coaches get jumpy while I'm doing the math.

[rob]

I vote for a recap between half innings as a higher priority. After having used iScore for several Little League games, it is the only shortcoming I have come across. I struggle with getting the last pitch count to reconcile with the other team.

[jcbeckman]

Hopefully this will be an option, as for me this will just be an unwelcome screen.

[Bryan D Shepherd]

Why is that JC? I'm curious as to your opinion on it. Not trying to call you out or anything, I'm just curious.