Scoring this play

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Scoring this play

Post by danmcc » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:46 am

Runner on first, one out.

Batter hits dinker into shallow right scored a single in no mans land.
Runner hesitates going to second not sure if the dinker would be caught.
RF catches ball on one hop, throws out runner at second 9-6.

When I score this

In play
Hit single
What happened to runner on first, out, force out

Problem is here, there is not an option to tap 9-6.
The app goes to what happened to batter, held up.
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by team mom » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:42 am

Can you tap on the runner at second after the play, and then select out, force out, 9-6? I think iscore assumes he makes it to 2nd with a single, but you should be able to score it after the fact and gets the stats correct.
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by Aimee » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:03 am

This is a fielder's choice.

In play
Fielder's choice
Location
Touch RF then SS
What happened to runner on first
Out, second, force out
What happened to batter on first
Safe, first, held up
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by team mom » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:14 am

I don't think it was a fielder's choice as the defense did not have a play at first. The batter should get credited with a hit. The reason the runner was out at second was because he hesitated on the run (in case it was caught.)
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by FTMSupport » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:26 am

In this case, Aimee has it right according to MLB rules. Unfortunately this is a case where a cleanly hit ball that may ordinarily be a base hit can be reduced to a fielder's choice if following the rules.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/of ... rer_10.jsp

10.05(b)(1)
10.05 Base Hits
....
(b) The official scorer shall not credit a base hit when a:
(1) runner is forced out by a batted ball, or would have been forced out except for a fielding error;

It is too bad for the batter, but there are other scenarios where clean hits can be reduced to non-hits as well. The following rule is at least as bad if not worse for the batter:
10.05 Base Hits
....
(b) The official scorer shall not credit a base hit when a:
...
(2) batter apparently hits safely and a runner who is forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner fails to touch the first base to which such runner is advancing and is called out on appeal. The official scorer shall charge the batter with a time at bat but no hit;
In this scenario, the BATTER is being penalized for the mistake of a RUNNER.
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by team mom » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:30 am

I learn something everyday on this board!
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by FTMSupport » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:33 am

In a youth game, I would probably credit the kid with a hit anyway, but technically it would not be. Try explaining that to the parent that is watching their kid's stats though. :)
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Re: Scoring this play

Post by danmcc » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:16 pm

Wow, baseball is a cruel world sometimes :) I seem to learn something here everyday.
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