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Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:51 am
by cvbarnett
Is there a way you can add a contact percentage to the batting stats? It would be nice to track how often a player makes contact with the ball regardless of the outcome.

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:43 am
by FTMSupport
How do you calculate contact percentage? We did a quick search and could not find any clear cut definition for this type of stat.

Is it percentage of strikes a player made contact with? A percentage of swings that were not just "swing and a miss"? Percentage of plate appearances the player put the ball in play?

Do foul balls count? Foul tips? (we don't differentiate right now)

Do walks count against a player's contact percentage? (seems it would unfairly penalize a player)

What about Hit by Pitch? Catcher interference?

If you have any links to a standardized way of calculating this type of thing, that would be very helpful.

Thank you.

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:16 pm
by cvbarnett
I think it is a percentage of plate appearances the player put the ball in play. A friend of mine has a program I believe it is turbo stats for her palm & one of the stats was CONT%.

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:23 pm
by cvbarnett
Here's a link I found on contact percentage http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2005/07/co ... ntage.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:24 pm
by FTMSupport
That link actually really pokes fun at the idea of contact percentage being all that useful. Talks about how some of the greatest hitters / greatest batting seasons by a hitter of all time had a low contact percentage.

It is also hard to imagine that if the number is going to be useful, it doesn't treat walks and other situations differently. Could you imagine a guy being penalized because he is intentionally walked every time he is at bat? Let's say a guy hits a homerun, and has 9 walks in 10 plate appearances. His contact average would only be 0.100 while his on base average is 1.000. (This partly explains Barry Bonds very low contact percentage in the link from the previous post... he was walked A LOT.)

If you have anything that actually shows the math involved for contact percentage (what to include / not include), we would love to investigate further.

Thanks again.

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:26 pm
by Mets Fan
i think it should be for the end of the at bat. we would be counting single pitches against a batter. lets say the batter was supposed to take a pitch, it shouldnt count. At bats minus strikeouts, that # divided by # of AB's times 100 shuld get the percentage.

thy this: 10 ab's, 4K's try it

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:38 pm
by cvbarnett
Here's another link I found http://rluzinski.blogspot.com/2006/03/c ... d-ops.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false I hope it helps.

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:09 pm
by FTMSupport
That link shows Contact % = (AB - K) / PA.

If that is the case, then all the information is in the CSV data (or Excel data) to add the extra column as a calculated column.

What are you trying to show with this #? The rluzinski.blogspot.com entry seems to suggest a lower contact % is better because it appears On Base percentage goes up as a result.

We are not clear this is what you are trying to do with the number though.

Do you find (AB - K) / PA as its own column a useful thing?

One thing we are going to try and do in future versions is provide more calculated stats as optional columns so people can choose the ones they are most interested in. We have to balance having too many (several people have asked why we already include so many columns) vs too few stats (people asking why not this or that stat). If we allow you to choose the ones you are interested in, that should solve the problem.

We have stated before that our main goal is to try and make sure we provide enough information that derived stats can be calculated, and if contact % = (AB-K) / PA, then it appears we are OK with this particular stat.

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:17 pm
by Mets Fan
could it be possible to add your own formula to the app to create your own stat. that would be cool

Re: Batting Stats

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:52 pm
by tmccombs
There are several stats that I would like to see offered as options to choose from for reporting purposes.
Secondary Avg (SecA), Isolated Power (IsoP), Runs Created (RC) to name a few for batting.