Wild Pitch and Passed Ball - Earned Run computation

[savin11]

I believe that if a run scores in an inning due to a passed ball or wild pitch, the determination of whether it is an earned or unearned run is based on how the inning plays out. So, for example, if a runner scores from 3rd on a passed ball with two outs, and the next batter makes an out, the scorekeeper would give the pitcher an unearned run, since the run would most likely not have scored if no passed ball. However if the next batter gets a base hit, then the run is earned, as the scorekeeper would determine that passed ball or not, the run would have scored. This would be tough to code into iScore, but it so, that would be awesome! Currently, I have to go in at the end of the game and change the pitcher's earned runs, since iScore will treat all runs scored in an innning with a passed ball/wild pitch as earned, even in the above situation.

[tmccombs]

Can't speak to how iscore handles this situation but...given your example above if there was errorless play up to the point that there were 2 outs with the runner on 3rd, then wild pitch = Earned run and passed ball = Unearned run. Iscore handles most, but not all earned run calculations correctly. Maybe someone can comment on this situation.

[FTMSupport]

iScore handles both of these situations properly. Wild Pitch is earned run. Passed ball it depends on how the rest of the inning plays out.

[savin11]

ok. Understood about the wild pitch (always earned). But I thought there was a situation I was scoring where the following occured.

1) single
2) passed ball (runner to second)
3) Ground ball out (runner to 3rd)
4) Ground ball out (runner scores)
5) Strike out (inning over).

In this case, this should not be an earned run, no? Since only by benefit of the passed ball did the runner score. I need to check, but I believe iScore charged an earned run to the pitcher.

[heidem]

I hae a question about the following inning:

1) double
2) passed ball (runner to 3rd)
3) sac fly (runner scores)
4) single
5) hit by pitch
6) strikeout
7) flyout

iScore charged an earned run to the pitcher, but the official ruling was an unearned run. Is this a situation that iScore can't calculate correctly? I corrected the stat manually and score just for fun, so this question is just out of interest.

[mprusak]

I believe so. An infield single for example would likely not score the run from second (absent the passed ball), however a long single in the gap, would. So, yes, you need to see it to know for sure.

[plivengood]

Seems to me that savin11's situation should have resulted in an unearned run (if the pitch was properly recorded as a PB rather than WP). I think iScore handles this properly, but there are certain instances where you have to override a determination of an earned run to an unearned run. Heidem's situation may be one of those. To know whether it should be an earned vs. unearned run, you'd have to rely on the scorekeeper's judgment to know (1) whether the fly ball that was a sac was deep enough that (in the absence of the PB) it would have moved R2 to third, and/or (2) whether the single was hit hard enough or in such a place that R2 would have scored from second (or third). iScore can't answer those questions as a matter of course, but in most situations, I would think the run would be earned and it probably assumes that. If you can answer the above questions and say that in your judgment, R2 would not have scored absent the PB, then go in an override the earned run determination and make it unearned.

BTW, this is an advantage of iScore, not a flaw in the programming....