Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

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Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by brentwalker » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:55 am

I would like to request that the box score be sorted as follows:

Batting, sorted by Averages

Fielding, sorted by fielding percentage

Pitching, sorted by ERA/ERG depending on what was selected in game settings as the number of innings. If 9 is used then ERA, if anything other than 9 is used then ERG.

This would improve the output of the scorecard. Often players in the lineup never get an at bat but they are mingled in on the scorecard. Usability request!
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by FTMSupport » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:24 pm

When you send emails, the stats are already sorted in this order.
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by brentwalker » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:06 pm

Not true. Check out http://foster.walkerzone.com/Games/2010 ... 0Lamar.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I sent this email this morning and saved as a webpage. You will see that the averages are not sorted in this order.
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by jcbeckman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:17 pm

If you do this, please make it an option. I prefer the current sort order.
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by brentwalker » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:00 pm

What is the current sort order?
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by OhioTex » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:08 pm

Let me try and clarify ... (and vote for no change)

two different EMAIL "HTML Outputs" with two different sort logics....
* one for Game Stats, "box Scores" and
* one for Cumulative stats

For a Game.
the sort logic is that specific games batting order first batter first, , ninth batter last..
first pitcher in first, relief pitcher next, , closer last
- I think this logic is most intuitive for a game recap stat, similar to newspaper style box score sort.

For Team 'Cumulative' Stats,
the order is different, like you suggest, and i think that makes sense for cumulative stats
hitting is sorted by avg,
pitching sorted by ERA
(ERA and ERG sort order is same if the team/league is consistent in the divisor, ie 6 or 9 throughout)
fielding sorted by FP
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by FTMSupport » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:40 pm

Yes, OhioTex has it right... intentionally using those two different sort orders.
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by brentwalker » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:12 am

Yes, I understand what you all are saying. However on our HS team, the coach carries 25 players each game. Not all see play time. Some in the line-up are substituted in the game but show up at the bottom of the line up and their stats are more difficult to find. As you can see below, there are alot that have zero's all the way across. At the very least I would like to see these listed at the bottom of the list with those who have game time stats shown above the rest.

# PLAYER G PA AB R H B 1B 2B 3B HR RBI BB Kc Ks SO HBP SB CS SCB SF SAC RPA OBP SLG OPS AVG
7 Joey Scheurich 1 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
10 Lucas Raper 1 5 3 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0.000 0.600 0.333 0.933 0.333
15 Wade Konvicka 1 3 3 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.333 0.333 0.667 0.333
44 Jacob Bledsoe 1 5 5 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.200 0.200 0.400 0.200
33 Vincent Martinez 1 4 4 0 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0.000 0.500 0.750 1.250 0.500
13 Bryce Machleit 1 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
5 Ryan Torres 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
5 Harrison Frehe 1 4 3 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.250 0.500 0.333 0.833 0.333
1 Grant Jaster 1 4 4 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.250 0.250 0.500 0.250
18 Colby McDade 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
2 Aaron Hernandez 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
3 Alex Hajduk 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
16 Andrew Head 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
14 Brad Walker 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
20 Brandon Torres 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
4 Connor Hayes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
17 Christian Deleon 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
21 Chance Murski 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
22 Cody Burns 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
11 Collin Cook 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
12 Harrison Duncan 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
34 Jan Tomek 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
23 John Fuller 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
19 Matt Lindblade 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
8 Parker Thomas 1 2 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.500 1.000 1.500 0.500
6 Will Roberts 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by OhioTex » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:14 am

I can see where your output is confusing, with the number of players who enter the game but have no at bats and the number apperently that do not enter the game at all.

the sort order for a specific game (not team stats) for batting is suppose to match the line up order. Does the order listed below match your game line up ?? (not the team roster order, but your game specific line up order?). Does the order listed below match the output on your score card?
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Re: Box Score enhancement - Sort by Averages

Post by brentwalker » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:46 am

Well, I think the answer is yes, but lets look at an example. The first 9 batters in the list above are correct and are the starting batter/fielders. the rest of the line-up are the players on the bench in alphabetical order by first name so that substituting is easier to find players.

Parker Thomas, second from the bottom was substituted as pitcher in the 6th inning and had two at bats. His stats are burried in amongst all those who saw no play time.

Not sure what you mean
Does the order listed below match the output on your score card?
If I understand your question, yes the first nine batters are listed on the scorecard including the substitutes.

Yes, I wish the coach didn't carry so many players on the varsity team but that is the choice he made and I'm trying to use the app such that it is readable, from a usability perspective.
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