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What do you think...
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:08 pm
by KevTN
I am not going to say how I scored this just want your thoughts...
Our team at bat: Runner at second. One out. Hard grounder hit to third base. 3rd base must have thought she had a force as runner at two started to run to third. Third baseman steps on third base before she realizes it is not a force and throws ball to first. Batter beats the throw and runner on second advances to third on the throw.
Thx
Re: What do you think...
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:44 am
by mprusak
I'd be curious to hear replies on this too. I think it has to be scored a hit, but it just seems wrong...
Here is the MLB verbiage on "mental mistakes":
The official scorer shall not score mental mistakes or misjudgments as errors unless a specific rule prescribes otherwise. A fielders mental mistake that leads to a physical misplaysuch as throwing the ball into the stands or rolling the ball to the pitchers mound, mistakenly believing there to be three outs, and thereby allowing a runner or runners to advanceshall not be considered a mental mistake for purposes of this rule and the official scorer shall charge a fielder committing such a mistake with an error. The official scorer shall not charge an error if the pitcher fails to cover first base on a play, thereby allowing a batter-runner to reach first base safely. The official scorer shall not charge an error to a fielder who incorrectly throws to the wrong base on a play.
So, that doesn't say credit a hit, it just says don't charge an error. So, the other option is a Fielders Choice.
Re: What do you think...
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:07 pm
by rdit
I would score it a FC
Re: What do you think...
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:50 am
by KevTN
Hmmm didn't even consider FC...stupid question but why FC not a hit?
I did score it as no error and a hit.
Re: What do you think...
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:36 am
by monarchstats
Regardless of her logic, 3rd baseman made the decision to try and put the runner from 2nd base out (FC) and not the batter, I would call score it a FC.
Re: What do you think...
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:18 am
by FTMSupport
Fielders Choice seems appropriate. You do not have to get the runner out to be considered a FC. The attempt was made on the runner (mental mistake that it was not a force, but mental mistakes are not errors), and then tried to get the batter.
Re: What do you think...
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:25 pm
by KevTN
Ok thank you guys. Always learn something new around here...