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Rundown double play

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:38 pm
by mjacton
Eventually scored this a 1-6-2-5-2 Double Play at Home and Force Out at Second but the Put Outs and Assists I had to assign correctly on my own. So, I would like to know if there was a way I could have done it and had iScore accumulate stats correctly.

Runners on First and Third, nobody out.

Ground ball back to pitcher. Pitcher throws to shortstop who forces runner at second. Runner at third breaks home...shortstop throws home catching runner in rundown, catcher-third base-catcher, who tags runner out. The batter made second on the play, but that's inconsequential, I think.

I tried a few different ways, including 1-6, then 6-2-5-2 when it asked me the DP sequence and also what I mentioned above. I also tried placing the Double Play at second and also tried it at home. Nothing worked exactly right.

How should I have done this?

Re: Rundown double play

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:44 pm
by ScottG33
I loaded a simulated game in iScore and the only thing that seemed to work out was:

BATTER: In-Play Fielders Choice, Groundball to pitcher (next), 1-6 (Done)
Runner at 3rd: Out, Tagged Out, 6-2-5-2 (Done)
Runner at 1st: Out, Force Out

Not sure if most accurate, but that seemed to record the sequences. When choosing Double Play for the runner at 3rd, it never asks for the sequences of events on the throws. It only allowed when choosing tagged out (which is what happened).

I curious what others say.

Scott

Re: Rundown double play

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:58 pm
by mjacton
Thanks for the response. I'll remember to try this if it ever happens again. I was scoring a Major League game retroactively at the time.

Re: Rundown double play

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:00 pm
by mjacton
Oh...and, yes, I did forget to mention that obviously I hit Fielder's Choice for the batter reaching base safely. I guess I assumed that was a given.

Re: Rundown double play

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:31 am
by OhioTex
unusual double plays are hard to get 'perfectly' correct at times in terms of PO and assists. and GDP batter statistic.

routine double pays are best done with 'quick plays' (swipe out on scoring screen)

I tied a couple ways an could not get it all square so i think manually editing is the best solve (FTM or another moderator may want to jump in with a solve)

in the end, you want batter to dinged for hitting into a double play (GDP) and the fielders participation in DP plus Assist for pitcher and Put out for SS and assist for short stop and third basemen and PO for catcher.

I tried a couple three scenarios and did not get the device t credit them all.

When i am scoreing plays I make a note real time and review and correct this type of oddity later.

Re: Rundown double play

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:57 pm
by grstatdoc
OhioTex wrote:unusual double plays are hard to get 'perfectly' correct at times in terms of PO and assists. and GDP batter statistic.

routine double pays are best done with 'quick plays' (swipe out on scoring screen)

I tied a couple ways an could not get it all square so i think manually editing is the best solve (FTM or another moderator may want to jump in with a solve)

in the end, you want batter to dinged for hitting into a double play (GDP) and the fielders participation in DP plus Assist for pitcher and Put out for SS and assist for short stop and third basemen and PO for catcher.

I tried a couple three scenarios and did not get the device t credit them all.

When i am scoreing plays I make a note real time and review and correct this type of oddity later.
Actually, this would not be a grounded into a double play, since the runner on third never was forced to advance (and the force out of R1 1-6 did not affect R3's status)

Re: Rundown double play

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:06 pm
by mjacton
That's a valid point about the GDP if that is in fact correct. As far as I can tell any time there's a ground ball out that ends in a double play, iScore seems to add GDP to the batter's statistics, regardless of whether, as you say the runner was forced.

This may be something you should add under the Enhancements topic? I'll leave you to decide.