failed double play...to charge an error or not?

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failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by fmcfish » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:41 pm

with a runner stealing from first, a line drive is caught. the stealing runner would have easily been doubled up at first BUT the throw back to first goes over the first baseman's head which allowed the runner to get back to first safely instead of being caught in a double play. Should the thrower be charged with an error even though the runner originally on first did not advance a base?
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Re: failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by team mom » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:26 pm

I believe the correct answer is no. If there is an out on the play, and no extra bases occurred due to the overthrow, no error is scored. I will try and post the reference tomorrow.
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Re: failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by fmcfish » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:40 pm

thanks. i'll await what others have to say. ultimately if that runner comes around to score, would the pitcher be charged with an earned run?
a similar scenario occurs when a foul pop is dropped. in that case the fielder DOES get charged with an error and if the batter ultimately gets on base and scores, his run is not earned and is not charged to the pitcher, I think.
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Re: failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by mprusak » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:21 pm

No error. Earned run if runner ultimately scores (assuming no other errors obviously).
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Re: failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by dhardy123 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:10 pm

It is not an error. You cannot assume a double play when determining errors.
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Re: failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by eoghanrd » Thu May 09, 2013 4:42 am

dhardy has the correct and most simple answer......cannot assume a double play.
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Re: failed double play...to charge an error or not?

Post by oconnor.jb » Fri May 10, 2013 6:05 am

fmcfish wrote:thanks. i'll await what others have to say. ultimately if that runner comes around to score, would the pitcher be charged with an earned run?
a similar scenario occurs when a foul pop is dropped. in that case the fielder DOES get charged with an error and if the batter ultimately gets on base and scores, his run is not earned and is not charged to the pitcher, I think.
It's really not similar, since if the foul pop had been caught, the batter would have been prevented from getting on base in the first place. In the case of the missed double play, the runner had earned his way on base. Since you can't assume the double play, the runner is still at his "earned" base, so if he scores (with no more errors) it would be an earned run.
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