Runner Hit by Ball w/ < 2 outs

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barneja4
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Runner Hit by Ball w/ < 2 outs

Post by barneja4 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:33 am

Runner on 1st and 2nd. Batter hits grounder to 2nd base. Would be fielded by SS, except runner hits the ball (looks like he didn't try to get out of the way - possibly to avoid DP - 6-4-3). Anyway, scoring - Batter - In Play - Fielder's Choice, Runner on 2nd - Out Hit by Ball, Runner on 1st advance to 2nd on ??? Advanced by Batter? Rules state 7.08(f) that ball is dead once the runner is hit by the ball and no runners advance except for runners forced to advance.

So, my question - how do I score the runner on 1st forced to advance to 2nd - advanced by batter, held-up at 2nd, or ??? Sounds like it is a dead ball so the boys can walk to their forced base if they so choose (ie, ball is dead). One note -the rule says the runner is out if "He is touched by a fair ball in fair territory before the ball has touched or passed an infielder." Wouldn't the pitcher count as a passed infielder? My thoughts are that "passed" is defined as "should have fielded" but I wouldn't be able to quote support from the rule-book.

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Re: Runner Hit by Ball w/ < 2 outs

Post by OhioTex » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:18 am

you scored the batter-runner advancing to first on fielders choice. the runner going from first to second - same treatment. Advanced by batter. (If he had advanced from 1st to 2nd by BB same thing).

The rules generally state 'except for pitcher' on that play. there is umpire judgement to be made.. if no other infielder had a chance on the ball, they can call it live in play. but generally it is a dead ball in my experience. Some rules / leagues have penalties that let umpire declare both runner and batter out.
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Re: Runner Hit by Ball w/ < 2 outs

Post by PetroGuy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:35 pm

The batter is also usually given a hit in this situation.
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