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Only 8 players

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:32 pm
by kevin.easley
Ok so we play little league and only had 8 players. Rules say if 9th player hasnt showed up with in 15 minutes then it's a forfit. However local bylaws say we can go ahead and play but every time that player comes up to bat it is an automatic out, unless its the third out. In this case you will start the next inning with one out. I cannot believe this has never came up yet so if anyone knows how to score this and make it right in the stats please let me know. I have even made a player named automatic out but it doesn't work in the third inning when we need to start with one out after I have skipped him in the second inning.

Re: Only 8 players

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:38 pm
by FTMSupport
In this case, we would recommend just playing to 2 outs in the inning, then use Misc->End Inning. End result is the same.

Re: Only 8 players

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:07 pm
by kevin.easley
Ok so in the second inning i used the skip batter to get past my ninth batter. Because you can't end it on the automatic out. We made it to the So how do I start the third inning on the fourth batter with one out and not affect the fourth batter? I wish there was an override button so we could sadly give an out when needed.

Re: Only 8 players

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:22 pm
by FTMSupport
Just score the batters as you normally would, but when two outs are reached in the innings, use Misc->End Inning to end the inning. So instead of "starting with one out", you are "ending with two outs". It is effectively the same thing.

Re: Only 8 players

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:33 am
by kevin.easley
Got it thanks for the help.

Re: Only 8 players

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:45 am
by OhioTex
kevin.easley wrote:Ok so we play little league and only had 8 players. Rules say if 9th player hasnt showed up with in 15 minutes then it's a forfit. However local bylaws say we can go ahead and play but every time that player comes up to bat it is an automatic out, unless its the third out. In this case you will start the next inning with one out. I cannot believe this has never came up yet so if anyone knows how to score this and make it right in the stats please let me know. I have even made a player named automatic out but it doesn't work in the third inning when we need to start with one out after I have skipped him in the second inning.
The reason it has not come up before.. To my recollection first posting this forum has had for the rule variant "unless auto out is third out". I see the value in it for youth leagues -- but that is what makes it very unusual for iscore. it basically overrides a fundamental assumption in most leagues (and in iscore) that the batting order once established does not change.

FTM workaround is valid and would be my first suggestion as the simplest.

the effort to create an "auto out " player is spot on, highly recommended. it helps keep everyones stats correct.

That is what I have done on occasion when faced with auto outs, though then all i had to do was skip batter = out. but you have the third out twist.. So .true to my nature, another workaround idea you may want to consider, (not for the faint of heart) is using offensive substitutions, (will involve making what in most every other league would be an illegal substitution).

since your team has an auto out, you probably do not have any bench players (bat = no) in your game line up. you will need to add one first to even attempt this work around. (misc > show starting line up or pitch by pitch > game starts ) to add player BAT NO ( bat =no), this enables offensive (batting) substitution screen.

Now when "auto out" comes up to bat and is potential third out, tap his batter icon, switch him for next batter in order. repeat each time next batter comes to plate till third out reached. Then should start next inning with auto out leading off. misc skip batter, out = yes. first out. After he finishes his at bat, however, will need to sub him back to his original correct line up spot (assuming that is the league rule, unless he now assumes his new spot)

this may be a bit tricky but an idea to consider.

Re: Only 8 players

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:55 pm
by danmcc
Just a thought but building on OhioTex's suggestion couldn't the 9th player be Auto Out=batting yes. When the player comes to bat give him an out.