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BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:13 pm
by bmclaurin
BR singles to CF, ball gets by F8, allowing BR to advance to 2B. Coach waves BR on to 3B. F8 makes a good throw to the relay man (F6), who fires to 3B. The relay throw from the F6 sails wide of 3B, but a good throw would have had BR by at least a step or two. For scoring purposes, I saw a single by BR, an error on F8, and an error on F6.
How do you handle this in iScore so that it shows up on the scoresheet and play-by-play correctly (and compiles the statistics correctly)?
I haven't found a way to do this all on one play. What I settled on was:
In Play
Single
Locate
What happened to batter:
Safe at 2B
Error
CF
Then tap on the BR (now at 2B)
Safe at 3B
Error
SS
This shows up properly on the scoresheet, and the stats are correct. But the play-by-play looks funny because the advance to 3B shows up as occurring during the next batter's plate appearance, rather than all in the same play. I settled for adding a note to explain what actually happened.
Any way to get iScore to register all of this in the same play?
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:38 pm
by FTMSupport
You have done it the best way. In order for iScore to make it appear all on a single play, we would have to prompt again for all baserunners after every single advance. Since the vast majority of the time there is no additional advancing after the first error, we felt it was best to only ask what happened to each runner one time for each play sequence.
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:45 pm
by bmclaurin
FTMSupport wrote:Since the vast majority of the time there is no additional advancing after the first error...
LOL...you haven't been to many of my son's little league games.
Thanks for the prompt reply.
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:34 am
by KevinRees
FTM: Since a pitch hasn't yet been recorded for the next batter, could you somehow make the advance to 3rd still apply to the original batter's play? Maybe prompt the user as to whether it's a continuation.
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:35 am
by FDT92
Or maybe a "Batter Up" button to mark the end of one at bat and the beginning of the next.
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:19 am
by CSThunderCoach
Since the vast majority of the time there is no additional advancing after the first error...
This is not the case in the younger youth leagues. I would like to see everything between pitches appear as a single event. You don't need to prompt a second time, just record everything between pitches as a continuation of events.
Thanks for listening.
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:03 am
by PetroGuy
Unfortunately, you can't just assume that it is a continuation. Again, in the youth leagues, it is not uncommon either for the play to end, the pitcher to get on the rubber to face the next batter and try a pickoff move on a previous batter. At that point, MANY odd things can happen with the younger teams (pickoff outs, errors successful and unsuccessful rundowns). Another pitch hasn't been thrown and yet the pitcher is facing a different batter during all of this.
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:08 am
by FTMSupport
We will add the idea of "continuing to add more events to a single play" to the enhancment list. It is not as easy as it sounds however. We would not want to add an additional step to every play entry (the Batter Up idea) because that would make entering plays take even longer. We can't just assume things entered before the next "pitch" are part of the previous batter (people enter steals, pickoff attempts, advanced on Defensive Indifference and any number of things).
We will think about this request, but maybe a button when you touch a runner to move him around that says something like "action is part of previous play".
Re: BR advances 2 bases on 2 errors by different fielders
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:47 am
by CSThunderCoach
Petro,
I've been away from baseball too long. In fastpitch, once the initial/continuation play is over, nothing else will happen until the next pitch is released to the batter (no lead-offs, etc). Unless of course it is an illegal pitch, then a whole new set of rules and conditions come into play depending on the sanctioning body.
I like the option of a "action is part of previous play" button. That would solve many of my "extra base" issues with the score book and play-by-play.