Dropped fly ball in foul territory.

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dannin1
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Dropped fly ball in foul territory.

Post by dannin1 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:06 am

How do you record a dropped fly ball in foul territory as an error and allow the batter to remain at the plate?
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Re: Dropped fly ball in foul territory.

Post by allrounder » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:52 am

After selecting foul, select the Misc button then assign error...
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Re: Dropped fly ball in foul territory.

Post by Bryan D Shepherd » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:36 am

Actually, it depends on the league that you are scoring. High school and below, an error can only be officially recorded if a runner reaches an advancing base. Dropping a foul fly ball, is simply a foul ball OFFICIALLY, however a note of it can be made.

ETA: Intrigued by what FTM told me about assists with errors, I looked it up in my high school rule book, and in rule 9.5.5 it states that:

An error is charged against a fielder for each misplay that prolongs the time at bat of the batter...

So, once again I am standing corrected. Perhaps I don't know as much about errors as I thought I did, but now I am more educated on them.
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Re: Dropped fly ball in foul territory.

Post by grstatdoc » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:37 am

Bryan D Shepherd wrote:Actually, it depends on the league that you are scoring. High school and below, an error can only be officially recorded if a runner reaches an advancing base. Dropping a foul fly ball, is simply a foul ball OFFICIALLY, however a note of it can be made.

ETA: Intrigued by what FTM told me about assists with errors, I looked it up in my high school rule book, and in rule 9.5.5 it states that:

An error is charged against a fielder for each misplay that prolongs the time at bat of the batter...

So, once again I am standing corrected. Perhaps I don't know as much about errors as I thought I did, but now I am more educated on them.
I won't speak to levels below high school, but a dropped foul fly (which prolongs the time at bat) is charged as an error at high school and above:

Fed (hopefully, the statistician's manual I'm quoting from does not conflict with the rule book; if so, some one needs to let them know about it. I'll volunteer if the conflicting paragraph can be supplied):
SECTION 14: Errors
Provision 1: An error is charged against any fielder (pitchers included) or the team (ET) for each misplay that prolongs the time at bat of the batter or the time of a runner on base or permits a base runner to advance one or more bases.
NCAA 10.16:
SECTION 16. a. An error is charged against any fielder (pitchers included) for each misplay that prolongs the time at bat of the batter or the time as a base runner or permits a runner to advance one or more bases.
MLB 10.12(a) (1) and (2):
(a) The official scorer shall charge an error against any fielder:
(1) whose misplay (fumble, muff or wild throw) prolongs the time at bat of a batter, prolongs the presence on the bases of a runner or permits a runner to advance one or more bases, unless, in the judgment of the official scorer, such fielder deliberately permits a foul fly to fall safe with a runner on third base before two are out in order that the runner on third shall not score after the catch;
(2) when such fielder muffs a foul fly to prolong the time at bat of a batter, whether the batter subsequently reaches first base or is put out;
Apologies for being so long-typed, but hope that I've provided something helpful.
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