BFP X-check incomplete (answered)

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BFP X-check incomplete (answered)

Post by Wildc@t99 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:38 pm

Hi All,

Am trying to cross check the batters faced by a pitcher (BFP) with the various methods to get off plate, and there appears to be gaps. Has anyone else noticed this?

The X-check I'm using is:
BFP = K + H + BB + IBB + CI + HB + GO + FO.

In game stat's, for 1 game, show:
BFP = 13
K(4) + H(1) + BB(3) + IBB(0) + CI(0) + HB(0) + GO(3) + FO(1) = 12.

Reviewing the scoresheet, there was a batter-runner that reached on an error, which might account for my missing batter. Is there an existing pitching stat that captures batters reaching on error, or is this accounted for in a different manner in iScore?

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Steve
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Re: BFP X-check incomplete

Post by FTMSupport » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm

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Re: BFP X-check incomplete

Post by OhioTex » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:18 am

I have never noticed an issue with BF (batters faced, pitch_BF,) for pitchers. do you have examples?

I believe BF is a simple "counter" type stat inside the program. the program just increments BF after each batting event and "tracks" rather than "calculates" BF as you are trying to describe. Same with say for example, number of strikes for example, the program just counts them as you go, it is not calculating backwards for ways a batter could have ended his time at plate.

Even in the case when subs, when during an AB the batter changes, (subs in and out) the program correctly counts that as 1 BF not multiple.


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In your attempt, you are also missing a number of other ways a batter can leave the time at bat. not exhaustive but off the top of my mind.. you missed. out - Sac Fly, Sac Bunt and Reach (ROE, Fielders Choice,Dropped third K,) probably more, but just a thought. also if a batter starts and at bat and out on the field and he returns to bat the next inning, that is only 1 BF not 2.

Lastly, yes . ROE is a stat for the batter, as is fielders choice .. that is standard convention. The program has the stats were expected
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Re: BFP X-check incomplete

Post by Wildc@t99 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:10 pm

OhioTex wrote:I have never noticed an issue with BF (batters faced, pitch_BF,) for pitchers. do you have examples?

I believe BF is a simple "counter" type stat inside the program. the program just increments BF after each batting event and "tracks" rather than "calculates" BF as you are trying to describe. Same with say for example, number of strikes for example, the program just counts them as you go, it is not calculating backwards for ways a batter could have ended his time at plate.
OhioTex - I agree. I think that it is a "counter" stat within iScore, it is not a calculated stat, as WHIP might be, for example. It simply records each time a batter "leaves the at bat". Nonetheless, I would expect that the various ways of leaving the at-bat recorded in the pitchers stats should add up to the batters faced. It appears that not all of these are recorded, and I was just wondering if that's because I haven't selected the columns, or if they're just not captured.

Say that PitcherA is really let down in the field - lot's of errors (in Junior Baseball, we call that normal :D !) Let's assume he pitches 3 innings, getting 3 K's and with 1 batter reaching on and error in each inning (so 4 batters per inning, 12 BFP in total). If I extract PitcherA's Stat's, it shows 12 BFP, 9K's. It leaves the other 3 batter's hanging. I gues I'm wondering, is there a stat column in pitchers stat's that captures, either collectively or individually, batters who leave the at-bat on errors/fielders choices/etc? Or do I need to review the scoresheet to find missing batters?
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Re: BFP X-check incomplete

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:07 pm

There are batting stats for those situations (like ROE) but not pitching stats. The BF stat is an internal counter that is counted just like Balls and Strikes are counted stats and used as the basis for other stats.
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Re: BFP X-check incomplete

Post by Wildc@t99 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:27 am

Thought that was the case. Cheers.
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