How do you folks score a sacrifice...

[KevTN]

This is the 12u ASA "A" girls team I am keeping stats on...

I gave our coach the stats for our team thus far (10 games) he was happy with it but said there should have been a few more sacrifices given...we both agreed that the circumstances could have gone either way so...

I will be the first to say I am NOT an expert on everything so in what circumstances do you consider giving a hitter a sacrifice?

Thanks

[mprusak]

Sacrifice Fly can only be scored when a run scores - i.e. no sacrifice for moving a runner from second to third on a fly out.

Sacrifice bunt should be awarded any time the batter advances all runners on a bunt that is deemed by the scorer to accomplish just that. If batter were to reach on error, a sacrifice should still be awarded if appropriate.

MLB rule:

10.08 Sacrifices
The official scorer shall:
(a) Score a sacrifice bunt when, before two are out, the batter advances one or more runners with a bunt and is put out at first base, or would have been put out except for a fielding error, unless, in the judgment of the official scorer, the batter was bunting exclusively for a base hit and not sacrificing his own chance of reaching first base for the purpose of advancing a runner or runners, in which case the official scorer shall charge the batter with a time at bat;
Rule 10.08(a) Comment: In determining whether the batter had been sacrificing his own chance of reaching first base for the purpose of advancing a runner, the official scorer shall give the batter the benefit of the doubt. The official scorer shall consider the totality of the circumstances of the at-bat, including the inning, the number of outs and the score.
(b) Score a sacrifice bunt when, before two are out, the fielders handle a bunted ball without error in an unsuccessful attempt to put out a preceding runner advancing one base, unless, an attempt to turn a bunt into a putout of a preceding runner fails, and in the judgment of the official scorer ordinary effort would not have put out the batter at first base, in which case the batter shall be credited with a one-base hit and not a sacrifice;
(c) Not score a sacrifice bunt when any runner is put out attempting to advance one base on a bunt, in which case the official scorer shall charge the batter with a time at bat; and
(d) Score a sacrifice fly when, before two are out, the batter hits a ball in flight handled by an outfielder or an infielder running in the outfield in fair or foul territory that
(1) is caught, and a runner scores after the catch, or
(2) is dropped, and a runner scores, if in the scorer's judgment the runner could have scored after the catch had the fly been caught.

[KevTN]

Thanks for your time and the information. I do appreciate this site for the information and the willingness of everyone helping each other out.

[FDT92]

and don't forget
NFCA Home Plate: ATEC: Beyond the Basics of Scoring Fastpitch Softball

[OhioTex]

sac bunt does not have to advance all runners, just the lead runner . /

[mprusak]

Really? interesting. So, I can bunt into a double play and get a sac if I advanced the lead runner?

Actually, in re-reading the rule I posted, it doesnt specify even that it needs to be the lead runner (just says 1 or more runners), though it doesnt make sense that you would get a sac if lead runner is put out.

[KevTN]

Thanks for the information

[OhioTex]

mprusak .. agree interesting, I can't imagine i would have scored a sac bunt if it resulted in a double play and advanced a runner.

[PetroGuy]

10.08c listed above seems to disagree. It says to NOT score a sac bunt if any runner is put out trying to advance.

[mprusak]

Thank you...knew we were overlooking something...so, my initial statement stands. This is in line with how I have always approached it.